541 8 J-8II for two F14
Chen Fei cannot refuse such a huge amount of scientific research funding. This article was first published by...
For China Industrial Enterprises, they can now have 200 million to 300 million yuan in funding, and they can walk sideways like crabs.
The country has no money, and many military projects in the 1970s have been removed due to funding issues. Shenfei's J-8ii fighter jets are also projects in the 1970s, and have not made much progress yet.
It's mainly because of avionics and not others.
Electronic systems are the shortcomings of the entire Zhonggong industry. Avionics and fire control radars have limited fighter jets' military equipment, which are very demanding. The J-8A type fighter jet has made its first flight a long time ago and has always been unable to be equipped on a large scale because of electronic systems.
This type of fighter was originally used to intercept the Russian MiG-25 and Tu-22 counterfire medium-range strategic bombers. As a result, it did not meet the requirements of the superior leader at all. The J-8a can only be launched during the day, not all-weather fighter. For the Tu-22, which can achieve Mach 3 penetration speed when driving the afterburner, it does not have much defense capability at all. No matter what, this kind of fighter still lies in the category of second-generation.
Compared with the US F14, it is far behind.
"Since you can't refuse, then, why not try it according to Director Liu's wishes? Even if you fail in the end, the Ninth Court will pay the bill..." Huang Qiaosong tempted the bosses of the Shenfei Group who could not refuse.
"Old Huang. It's not wrong to say this. If we ultimately cannot provide the fighter jets they need, the technical performance indicators cannot be completed, which causes problems in the contract between the Ninth Academy and Iran. Who will bear the responsibility?" It's not wrong to say this.
The problem is that something happened, and Chenfei Group cannot afford such a responsibility.
This is a big gamble.
"That's what Director Liu does. When signing the Long Weiyi contract, Director Liu said that he would provide 180 vehicles before the end of the year, but in the end he could only provide 100 vehicles. What can I do with the Iranians? Because the contract of 180 vehicles is a verbal agreement. Although Director Liu is very young, many people think that he does not have enough work experience. In fact?" Huang Qiaosong shrugged and said calmly.
"Okay, we took this order if Iran order..."
Gu Songfen also knew that once the Ninth Academy gave up their project and turned to the improvement of the J-7, even the 132 aircraft factory in Rongcheng could complete the task.
Chen Fei cannot miss this opportunity, and 601 Institute cannot miss this opportunity.
As Huang Qiaosong said, Chen Fei could not refuse 300 million yuan in scientific research funds.
"Iran's ordering is a contract with Director Liu. I believe you know that Iranians will not buy it at all. How much does the fighter cost? Director Liu will discuss it. Chen Fei's main task is to study it carefully and conduct experiments according to the time given by Director Liu." Huang Qiaosong knew that Liu Yijiu could fool the Iranians.
I also know that Iranians will not take Shen Fei seriously.
They negotiated with the Chinese weapons procurement, even if the Ninth Academy did not have weapons and equipment, through the Ninth Academy. These things were not necessary for the Shenfei Group to worry about. Therefore, they interrupted Gu Songfen's general design of the J-8ii without hesitation.
Things have reached this level, and Chen Fei cannot refuse such generous conditions and treatment, so Liu Yijiu's goal has been achieved.
When negotiating with the Iranians, I had some confidence.
"Liu, you should be very clear that the price of the Pahlavi Dynasty purchasing F14 was 80 million US dollars per. Now, your second-generation fighter jet is only 10 million US dollars. Do you think it is appropriate to use 20 million US dollars to exchange for 80 million US dollars?" For the second-generation fighter jet, even if it is infinitely close to the third-generation fighter jet, the Iranians look down on it.
The Iranian country's military design and production capacity is not very strong, so they need to purchase from abroad.
Even if the most advanced weapons and equipment are purchased, it is impossible to imitate them. Not to mention the imperfect basic supporting facilities, the key is that they cannot even understand many technologies.
China is no match for a small country like Iran. It has a huge population and also has complete industrial supporting facilities.
It is inappropriate to trade two F14s for four pandas, no matter what.
The Chinese have pushed the price down too much.
"Mr. Minister, I think you have forgotten the obligations we should bear after obtaining this kind of fighter. If you have no objection or request, then I think we can pay at a price of 80 million. But we will not guarantee to provide spare parts within three years, nor will we guarantee to provide imitation fighter aircraft within five years. In terms of price, we will even calculate the price according to our production costs and production efficiency..." Liu Yijiu knew that the other party would ask for a price everywhere.
Said lightly.
Not to mention eighty million US dollars per aircraft, even one hundred million or even two hundred million US dollars per aircraft, it should be sold.
The problem is, the Ninth Court doesn’t have that much money.
The price of the second-generation fighter jet's J-8 is already very high. Liu Yijiu wants to sell for 20 million US dollars or even higher. No one is a fool, right?
So, save as much as you can.
"Your fighter jets, even new fighter jets, cannot achieve such value. Director Liu, we sincerely want to talk to you about this cooperation, not just talking about it." Canon also frowned and said to Liu Yijiu.
Liu Yijiu's price reduction is too much.
Liu Yijiu did not comment.
"We are also very sincere. If it is just a fighter jet like J-8A, 5 million each, how many you want, how many we provide. For the new fighter jets, we have installed the same type of pulse Doppler radar used by the American F14. Mr. Samnira should be clear about this, right?" Liu Yijiu emphasized the fact of pulse Doppler radar.
This radar is not cheap in itself, and it also comes with a computer's fire control system.
"Liu. At least, you need to provide at least 16 J-8ii aircraft to be worth equated with two F14 aircraft. The American technology is more urgent than us. If it is an American, even if it is a five hundred million US dollars, you will not be able to obtain such aircraft."
"If it were Americans, you would also pay 500 million US dollars. They would not continue to provide you with relevant supporting parts and new fighter jets. If it could be reached, they would deliver the 160 F-16 fighter jets ordered by King Pahlavi, instead of until now, even if you have American hostages in your hands, the negotiations would not be able to make any progress..." Liu Yijiu said with a sneer.
Samnira and Canon both had gloomy faces and did not speak.
"To be honest, you two, the price you proposed is not too high. Compared with the technology contained in F14, it is not high at all. You know the situation in China. After all, we don't have much funding to invest in it at all. The Chinese government will not participate in it. Why should I not say why. And all this money is borne by our Ninth Hospital. The Longwei tank was originally sold for 2.5 million US dollars each, but because of the intervention of the Pakistani people, we sold it to you at a cost of 2 million..." Liu Yijiu saw that the contract could not be agreed upon, so he simply changed the topic.
"And now, anyone with discerning eyes knows the situation of the war between you and Iraq. If there are no tanks provided by us, no tanks of various types owned by the Iranian military will be the opponent of the T72. Even if you have the F14 and can effectively intercept the MiG-25 fighter jets of the Iraqi people, so what? The Iraqis have financial support from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other countries, and weapons and equipment support from the Soviet Union and even the United States and the entire Western countries. What does Iran have? One F14 is less than one, and the Iraqi air force equipment can still be supplemented through procurement, and can even be strengthened through procurement..." Liu Yijiu said, forcing the Iranians to think about this matter seriously.
Although the Iraq-Iraq War was provoked by Iraq, no Western country supports a single one, and they all make some suggestions without pain.
Iran's oil exports were sanctioned due to the Tehran hostage incident, and foreign exchange sources plummeted.
The channels for obtaining weapons and equipment have become rare due to the sanctions of the Americans. Even if the British and French are willing to export to them, they will ask for a huge price. This point Liu Yijiu proposed at this time is very fair to Iran.
"Director Liu, if you calculate according to your cost, what is the price of the f14 imitation product that was finally provided to us?" Samnira did not say anything. Canon took a deep breath and asked Liu Yijiu.
"No more than 50 million US dollars!" Liu Yijiu said lightly, "If similar engines in our country are used, if the production quantity is sufficient, the cost will not even exceed 40 million US dollars per aircraft!" Liu Yijiu's offer made the Iranians very moved.
"10 J-8ii, so we can also give an explanation to the country." After discussing, Samnira said to Liu Yijiu.
The Chinese conducted research and imitation work through the F14 they provided, and they provided tens of millions of dollars in funding.
"Six!" Liu Yijiu shook his head. "If you feel that it can be afforded, we can identify the contract now. In addition, we can supply the weapons and equipment you purchased from our country without limit. In time, our country responds to the call of the United States, and we will also find ways to provide you with a sufficient quantity of weapons and equipment."
"Eight aircraft. Director Liu, this is our bottom line! Two F14 aircraft, even if you have twenty second-generation fighter jets, you may not be able to win!" Although he didn't believe this, Samnira still had to say it.
This can be related to the interests of their country.
The more eight J-8 aircraft can prevent the Iranian Air Force from being out of work due to damage to the parts of the Panda F14.
Other fighter jets are far behind Soviet-style equipment.
"Trade!" Although the price of eight J-8ii is less than 60 million US dollars, and the purchase price of one F14 is less than that, Liu Yijiu is still heartbroken.
In his opinion, this is a kind-hearted act of helping the Iranians. The Iranians should cry and shout, kneel down and beg the Chinese to help them study the F14 technology, and finally make this advanced fighter jet domestically produced.
It now seems that the Iranians do not have the idea of producing themselves.
The entire Iran has not had a very complete industrial foundation, and even if it is given technology, it cannot be manufactured.
Thinking of this, Liu Yijiu felt relieved.
"Director Liu, our tank..." Samnira raised the delivery issue of Long Weiyi again.
"We will work 24 hours a day, striving to deliver 70 more vehicles to you at the end of the year. If you exceed them, you won't be able to do anything. We can't do anything. However, I suggest that in these tanks, you only need to install a new air defense missile module..." Liu Yijiu always thinks that 150,000 US dollars per one is a bit cheap.
However, thinking about the missile's face test and its range is less than 10 kilometers, I feel relieved.
Americans and European air defense missiles are more expensive because they are expensive and have a reputation.
China's air defense missiles will sooner or later increase their prices.
"What if we hope to change this missile into an air-to-air missile? And it can be equipped with an F14 and matched with the weapon systems of American fighter jets, how long does it take and how much does it cost?" Samnira finally raised this question.
Iran is still in chaos at present, and Khomeini does not effectively control the entire country, so the Iranians' flashing ability is not too outrageous.
"If the F14 can be in place as soon as possible, I think this improvement can be completed in at most half a year. Moreover, the cost will not be too high, and the cost of a missile will not exceed 200,000 US dollars." Liu Yijiu thought for a while, Iran was their first big customer in the true sense, and there was no need to bully it too much.
It is best to be able to form a good reputation effect for China's military products through Iran, with low prices and lower profits, which is not a problem.
"Okay, I think we can draw a contract. I hope that at least 20 units will be equipped with air defense modules in the tanks I will provide next. After the contract is signed, $12 million in funding will soon arrive in your country."
"As long as the money is in place, I think we can meet your needs before the New Year. Air-to-air missiles will be slower, but air-defense missiles are not a problem!" Liu Yijiu nodded.
One thousand two million dollars is not much.
But this is a good start. (To be continued. (.))
ps: Today my apprentice's child is full month old and I drink at noon and evening, especially at night. I drink Erma and Erma. I originally planned not to update it, but seeing the enthusiastic support of my brothers, Hulu had to bear to get drunk and write a chapter.
This chapter may not be of good quality, I hope my brothers forgive me.
Chapter completed!