Chapter 283 Ukrainian Federation
On the surface, Mazepa recruited Vitas just to preside over the river transportation affairs of the Dnieper River, but in fact, this is part of Mazepa's establishment of his own government. Unlike Zelenko, Mazepa's subordinates are all tough people who take horses and cut people down, and they are extremely eager for managers.
In the Southern Russian region, Mazepa and Zelenko, under the leadership of Li Su, basically allocated their sphere of influence, and the position near the Don River belongs to Zelenko. The traditional territory of the Cossack is Mazepa, the Cossack Gaitman.
The economic models under the rule of both sides are completely different. The main banks of the Dnieper River are agriculture and logging industries, while the location of the Don River is the mining industry that Zelenko is focused on developing. Not only coal mines and iron ore, but no matter what industry it is, it is a supporting industry in the Xijin Economic Circle.
The Empire did not want the Southern Russian region to be unified, so no matter what the two of Mazepa and Zelenko had, they could only put together according to the requirements of the Empire.
Zelenko's arrival in Xijin this time was not just to scare his former partners and strengthen his own power, but to discuss the affairs of the "Ukrainian State" under the auspices of King Rong Li Su. The first thing is to say is what political system the future Ukrainian State will be.
At this point, Zelenko and Mazepa each had their own opinions.
What Mazepa wanted to establish the Cossack emirates, that is, the feudal monarchy. Of course, he didn't care about changing the Cossack emirates to the title of Ukraine Kingdom. After all, he had contacted Zelenko, especially the Slavic ethnic groups he had in Xijin over the years. He found that the deeper the Slavic ethnic group involved in the empire, the more nationalist tendencies. The Cossacks were still not a national entity on the southern Russian grassland on the northern coast of the Black Sea. On the contrary, under the decades of propaganda of Zelenko, the Ukrainian nation has gradually taken shape and has its own language and writing.
Zelenko was completely different. What he wanted to establish was a real nation-state, capitalist country. In the early years, Zelenko actually wanted to establish a dual constitutional monarchy like the empire. After all, in this era, because of the rise of the empire, constitutional monarchy itself was a prominent academic. Britain and France have now embarked on such a path, but he has given up on this plan himself.
The reason is very simple. In the original constitutional monarchy, the monarch was Tazerenko and his descendants. Now, with Mazepa's joining, this child from a traditional Cossack nobleman was still staring at the title of Cossack Gaitman in the Ukrainian region. If there was a monarch in the future country, it would probably be Mazepa, not his own.
Therefore, what Zelenko wants to establish now is a republican regime, similar to the United Republic of the Netherlands.
During the half month of coming to Xijin and holding formal talks, the two sides built several times in the Rong Prince's Mansion and had a full and frank conversation. Zelenko knocked on the table with leather boots, and Ma Zepa pulled out his knife in anger. Both sides said they could not accept each other.
In fact, in the final analysis, the economic foundation determines the superstructure. The land under Zelianke includes both coal mining, agricultural product export processing, wood processing and other industries. It was a supporting industry in the Xijin Economic Circle for a long time. These are all capitalist economic forms, and a system that matches it must be established.
In addition, Zelenko's managers and powerful people under his rule have experience in working and studying within the empire, or dealing with the empire for a long time, which is extremely difficult to accept for the feudal monarchy.
Under Mazepa, all of them were feudal military aristocrats like Cossacks. Although more than a hundred years ago, when the first Russian fugitive serfs came to the southern Russian prairie and became Cossacks, they advocated freedom and equality in the new land in order to resist the persecution of serfdom, the gap between the rich and the poor in the Cossacks has become increasingly widening in recent decades. In fact, the Cossack leaders have become new serf owners.
Newly joined Cossacks often need to work for their superiors for more than ten years before they can gain themselves. The Cossack emirates that they once established are also similar to the political system of aristocratic republic.
"It is meaningless to continue to discuss this. I think it will only increase the conflict between the two sides." In the Rong Palace, this is the seventh formal meeting on the future of the Ukrainian nation. This time, Mazepa no longer has the patience.
Zelenko nodded: "Yes, no matter how unbreakable the alliance between us is, we are all influenced by the people below. If this continues, if there is no reasonable result, when we return to our own jurisdiction, conflicts will break out. Lord Mazepa, what do you think?"
"To be honest, when you knocked on the table with leather boots in front of me, someone under my subordinate suggested doing this." Mazepa said helplessly. He took out the cigarette box and said bloody words on his lips, but he familiarly handed a cigarette to Zelenko and threw the matches over.
"You are such an honest person," Zelenko said.
Mazepa smoked: "But you are still wise enough."
Since the third meeting, Zelenko took off his boots and Mazepa drew his knife, and the two sides were at odds, so the next three meetings had no results. This time, Zelenko took the initiative to propose that the two of them come alone without any followers. Anyway, they speak Chinese very well, and there is no problem with the exchange between the two sides. As for meeting minutes, such interviews need to reach a general consensus, so there is no need for records. If necessary, the Rong Palace can also provide it.
"It's better to do this. Let's start from scratch, throw away all distractions, and build a brand new system?" Li Su said.
"Please tell me in detail. In fact, I think you should have said the Empire's advice long ago." Mazepa said.
Li Su smiled: "Prince Yu means to fully respect the opinions of both of you. If you don't drink water, you force your head to press. This kind of thing can be done, but if you press it, you can't drink it. What's the use of us pressing it?"
"What is the Empire's suggestion?" Zelenko asked on his own initiative. In his opinion, his personal wishes with Mazepa could not lead the negotiations at all. Both of them wanted to make concessions and compromise so as to reach an agreement as soon as possible, but the problem was that the bottom line issue could not be concessions.
Li Su pressed the cigarette butt into the ashtray and said, "In fact, this is Prince Yu's suggestion, or he gave this new system a name, the federal system."
"What's specific?" Zelenko asked.
In fact, Li Junwei is just a name, and the specific plan is still Li Suti.
Li Su's method is very simple. Going inside and outside, the Ukrainian government will be able to maintain consistency with the outside world in the future. In the future, it is enough to do its own things. If everyone insists on serfdom and Zelenko insists on the capitalist system, it is simple. Both sides can establish a province or state, or a country, as long as the forces of all parties join the Ukrainian country.
In this way, the diplomatic, military and other rights will be exercised externally in the name of the Ukrainian State, and internally, each has its own economic system.
Li Su briefly introduced the general concept of the federal system to the two. When they looked at each other, they both thought that this suggestion was good, at least it was operational, and of course it needed to be discussed in depth.
The two had no objection to the establishment of an organization like the establishment of a parliament. The difference was that the aristocratic republic that Mazepa wanted was actually the playground for the nobles, while Zelenko really wanted to become a parliament and legislative unit.
The first contradiction arises, that is, a country must have a leader, who will be the president of the Ukrainian Federation?
This is a problem between the two. Mazepa and Zelianko wanted to do it themselves, and neither of them obeyed each other. At this time, the benefits of the parliamentary system were reflected. Li Su directly suggested that since both of them were interested, the parliament could be elected.
The Cossacks are familiar with the election. They elected positions like Gaitman, and they were not unfamiliar with Ukrainian upstarts such as Zelenko, especially Zelenko himself, who was familiar with the political operations of the empire and also visited European countries.
In principle, the two agreed to the election method, but the problem arose immediately. Since it was an election and the two were elected, how could the qualifications of the electorate be established? Mazepa made a request and asked Li Su to introduce how the empire's parliament was formed. Li Su was responsible for this. Although Zelenko knew about it, Mazepa was not familiar with it.
The empire's councils are divided into hierarchies. From the town level, there are houses, villages, and communities send representatives to form town houses. This house selects several representatives to the city to form the city house, and so on, forming the provincial house.
The highest legislative body of the empire was the parliament, which was divided into the House of Lords and the House of Lords. The House of Representatives had undergone several reforms, one third of which were fixed representatives and were composed of descendants of the founding fathers. For example, King Rong Li Su had a fixed seat in the Senate because of his grandfather. Moreover, because his grandfather was the founding prince, he had one vote equivalent to three votes from others, but he was outside, and this seat was temporarily replaced by his clan relatives.
Two-thirds of the representatives are elected, half of which are elected by ranks above the earl, and the other half are elected by all those with ranks below the earl. Generally speaking, veterans who have made contributions in previous wars are more likely to become representatives.
Of course, what the two really want to refer to is the Imperial House.
The Imperial House of Representatives are composed of representatives of each province, but the amount is not fixed. There are basic representatives and maximum limits. Imperial cities such as Shenjing, Beijing-Tianjin, and Penang are fixed three or four representatives. Different provinces are different. One province, even if the population is small, it has the qualifications of five representatives. Under the premise of five representatives, a quota can be added for a certain amount of population growth, but there is a cap on it, which is nine people.
It can be said that population is the most important reference for the distribution of representatives of the Imperial House.
However, after listening to it, Mazepa and Zelenko believed that they could not directly imitate. The reason was very simple. Zelenko felt that Mazepa controlled more people than him. If the number of members of the parliament was determined by the population, he would definitely be the president.
So Zelenko asked a question, that is, do serfs count as human beings? If so, Mazepa will definitely win, but if not, Mazepa will lose.
As a result, Mazepa was also very thief and directly stated that if the population was determined, then it would be fine if it was his problem, then it would not be fine. To put it bluntly, Mazepa wanted to use the serfs under his rule to increase his power in the parliament, but he did not want to give serfs the right to vote.
The two of them's game surprised Zelianko and Li Su. Mazepa had been with Vitas and others for a long time, and became so politically mature.
Fortunately, Mazepa also disagrees with simply determining the number of members based on the population, because he has no confidence in the future.
Mazepa insisted on serfdom not because he felt that serfdom was advanced, but because he was in a difficult situation. He was just the leader of the martial arts world in the Cossacks. If he proposed to abolish serfdom, he, Gaitman, would have ended up. But Mazepa really understood the disadvantages of serfdom. With the reform of the foreign vassal states in the empire, all the serfdoms in the empire have been abolished. The serfs who turned over made great contributions to the economic development of the imperial vassal states and the rise of Xijin.
In Tibet, Ozil's Datong government abolished the serfdom early. In the early days of the founding of the country, King Li Jundu of the British swept the chieftains in the southwest, and such systems did not exist in the southwest.
After the French Revolution, the French Third-level Conference also announced the abolition of serfdom. Prussia and Russia also discussed this issue because of this issue. It can be said that in today's world, whether serfdom is abolished is directly linked to whether a country can become a powerful country.
It is precisely because he knows the disadvantages of serfdom that Mazepa estimated that his population advantage over Zelenko would not last long. At least the hundreds of thousands of workers and relatives of the Xijin Empire would definitely be willing to be a worker and a rich peasant under Zelenko, rather than a serf master under his rule.
If you can only win for a while, there is no need to fight for this system.
Although both of them disagreed, they could not think of any other solution. In the end, Li Su proposed a new reference standard - tax.
In the House of Representatives elections in the Empire, whether to pay taxes is the basic condition for whether you can have the right to vote. Only taxpayers are eligible to elect and be elected. Although the election has been reformed for more than 40 years since the founding of the People's Republic of China, at most, tax payment standards are reduced, such as years and tax payment amounts, allowing more people to participate in elections and be elected, and the right to vote is still linked to tax payments.
Of course, in recent years, some people in the House have suggested that all adults in the empire can have the right to vote, but no one has ever mentioned that all adults have the right to be voted.
Chapter completed!