Chapter 1017 finfet
"Senior Brother, you are so anxious." Su Yuanshan smiled and brewed a cup of tea for Qin Weimin, then sat down next to him.
Not long after he received a call from Liang Mengsong in the car, Qin Weimin called him. After learning that Su Yuanshan was on the way back, Qin Weimin ran to the office and waited for him.
Qin Weimin has always been known for his calmness, and it is really rare when he is so anxious.
"I'm not very anxious. But Wen Jie hasn't seen him for a long time, so he has to go over and take a look. Are you right?" Qin Weimin smiled and said: "As for the others, that's a bystander."
"Hahaha! It's not a matter of phone call for you to see Brother Tang? He dares not come?" Su Yuanshan immediately laughed and exposed Qin Weimin's little lie.
But then he nodded and said, "It's okay to take a look in the past. In fact, now I don't know the process of their low-power version. And I also agree that performance and power consumption need to be synchronized."
——When a process technology was first launched, it must require a large number of orders to feed the cost. In Deyuan's pure OEM model, in the past, the two fables-type companies that pursue advanced processes, which had unreserved support from Yuanxin and Xinghai, the maturity period of their processes was shortened to an unattainable level. Therefore, the current situation where Deyuan was the only one and the strong were always strong, and it seized most of the benefits in the OEM field.
Historically, Intel first relied on its own advantages in process technology and a large number of orders from its own FPGA and processors to lead the process technology to the first launch of the 22nm Finfet node, which was even two years earlier than TSMC.
However, as TSMC broke through the 22nm process, especially the 22nm low-power technology, a large number of orders allowed TSMC to quickly make breakthroughs in the process nodes and eventually surpassed Intel. During this period, the low-power technology actually played a very critical role. To put it more specifically, the arrival of the smartphone era. Intel, and Intel, began a long journey of squeezing toothpaste.
Since Deyuan has always undertaken Yuanxin and Xinghai, amd is also added later - the most advanced design solutions of these three desktop processor companies. Therefore, each process node of Deyuan is given priority to high performance, and then low power consumption can be taken into account - this is also one of the main reasons why Qin Weimin was anxious this time.
After all, the development direction of the yx architecture is low power consumption.
Hearing that Su Yuanshan also recognized his demands, Qin Weimin completely relieved and slapped Su Yuanshan on the shoulder with a smile: "Then let's say that, I'll go with you tomorrow. We really can't delay it. Risc-V is progressing very quickly. I'm really worried that if it delays for a long time, Silicon Valley and Europe will do something to do - oh, and Bangalore is the same. Last year, the third brother was ambitious and said that he would fully support Risc-V and make it a national instruction set..."
"Well, although I am not very optimistic about the Third Brother Government, the Risc-V Foundation should not be underestimated." Su Yuanshan also sighed and empathized with Qin Weimin.
As time goes by, the impact of the rise of Yuanxin is no longer a butterfly wing-level, but a banana fan-level. It can even be said that in today's semiconductor field, the comparison of influence between the East and the West has been greatly improved.
——In the field of chip design, although in terms of market share, Zhiyuan EDA's share has "reduced" to over 50%, but this is entirely because with the deepening of the information technology revolution, a large number of small chip design companies have emerged, as well as several traditional Western EDA companies that have "grabbed" the past market in terms of continuous merger, development and continuous segmentation of functions. In essence, Zhiyuan EDA is still the most complete and complete eda product at present, no one.
In the field of semiconductor equipment and foundry, the rise of Hongxin and Deyuan is no longer a reversal of its status, but directly makes the "root" of semiconductors fall into the east.
Not to mention the yx architecture. Since defeating arm, the yx architecture has evolved continuously with mobile phones and has become the most influential architecture in the world.
Faced with this situation, Silicon Valley is obviously not giving up. In so many fields, if you want to reshuffle the cards, the only area that is convenient to buy is actually a low-power architecture.
Therefore, Risc-V came into being. As soon as it was born, it received strong support from various Western universities, as well as veteran companies such as ibm, intelligence, Motorola, and Qualcomm. It has developed extremely rapidly in the past two years. Not only has a large number of excellent IPs been born, but it also has a spirit of open source... No matter how you look at it, you will mean to pull Risc-yx off the horse.
How do you say that sentence?
"It is very important to me without you." - This is the collective idea in the Western semiconductor field at this time.
Therefore, according to the latest news, it is very likely that Qualcomm will adopt the risc-V architecture in 4g chips.
Therefore, Su Yuanshan could fully understand Qin Weimin's anxiety - Deyuan is a professional OEM factory and has an independent and fair business. It is impossible to say that the Risc-V architecture comes to him and refuse it.
Therefore, if Deyuan could launch a low-power process earlier and make the IP of the Risc-yx architecture mature earlier, it would obviously help maintain the status of the YX architecture.
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The next day, Qin Weimin and Su Yuanshan set off for the Shanghai Stock Exchange.
After leaving the airport, the two went straight to Deyuan.
"Brother Tang, you didn't actually come to the airport to pick us up?"
At the gate of Deyuan, Su Yuanshan looked at Tang Wenjie standing at the door like a hill. He stepped forward and punched him in the stomach, but found that he was hitting a wall...
"Haha, the jet lag is there." Tang Wenjie laughed and hugged Su Yuanshanxiong, then grabbed Qin Weimin's hand and held his shoulder: "Senior brother, long time no see."
"Well, long time no see - you come here to Singapore and make a spoiler jet lag." Qin Weimin looked at Tang Wenjie with a smile and rubbed his arms without leaving any trace.
"That's right, he pretends to be like a master - where is General Liang?" Su Yuanshan looked at the park through Tang Wenjie's back and saw that except for a few employees, Liang Mengsong was not found in the park. Well... he was quite satisfied.
"The office is waiting for you, we won't engage in formalism."
"Well, don't do it, let's go." Su Yuanshan smiled slightly and agreed.
The three brothers and sisters said as they got on the convertible sightseeing car in the park, and went straight to the technical center with laughter.
When they arrived at the technical center building, Liang Mengsong brought a group of people to wait there, but everyone was acquaintance and went straight to the conference room without much greeting.
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"Because the sample was only released, it is difficult to talk about yields or something." Liang Mengsong looked a little thinner than when he met at the last time at the Science and Technology Committee. He must have worked a lot of overtime recently, but he was very energetic and pointed at the LCD panel with a pen with great enthusiasm and said, "But the process is fine, and we can continue along the way along the way."
"There is no problem with the process, it means that you can update the pdk?"
"Well, it's actually being updated. I guess eeda will follow up at most a month."
Su Yuanshan let out a light breath, and then he glanced at Qin Weimin again: "This time we are going to get the high-performance technology first, right?"
"Even if we go first, we have to ask some people to agree..." Liang Mengsong looked at the joke indifferently: "Old Gao ran towards me eight times a day..."
Everyone laughed.
Gao Xiaodi got the moon first when he was close to the water, so he should have been running here a lot.
"What about the time of the low-power version?" Su Yuanshan continued to ask for Qin Weimin.
"We can only say as soon as possible. If we have to give time... three to six months." Liang Mengsong gave a very relaxed time.
Su Yuanshan and Qin Weimin looked at each other, and both nodded at the same time.
——Although this time is a bit wide, the maximum period of six months obviously means that Deyuan is planning to work overtime.
Su Yuanshan silently calculated the time and found that the Finfet process would officially enter the mass production stage by the end of next year. Then he compared it with memory... He was delighted to find that Moore's Law was advanced this time by Deyuan.
——In my memory, it seems that the first Finfet chip was launched by Intel in 2011.
This discovery made Su Yuanshan breathe a long sigh and feel quite touched.
——If Intel still does not change the idm mode, then squeezing toothpaste will probably be a foregone conclusion in the next few years—at least, at the process node, it is likely that it will continue.
That way...
Not to mention amd and cyrix, even the far core may be able to rely on transistor density to pull Intel off.
——You know, Jim Keller has taken over the architectural design of Yuanxin's next-generation processor. Although he cannot overly imitate someone, he is indeed nb!
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Since Su Yuanshan and Qin Weimin came to the Shanghai Stock Exchange, there is no need to be a party. Especially Qin Weimin, since the YX architecture was separated, Qin Weimin has also left the Yuanxin Science and Technology Committee, so that he had very few opportunities to meet with Li Mingliu, Gao Xiaodi and others. Today is the first time in this year.
Therefore, that night, Gao Xiaodi shouted that he would kill Qin Weimin no matter what.
But as we all know... Mr. Qin's alcohol tolerance is not comparable to that of ordinary people. As Su Yuanshan's senior brother and Academician Su Xinghe's chief disciple, Qin Weimin is the kind of person who can stop drinking for the teacher. The ordinary people can't understand his depth at all.
Not to mention that the three brothers gathered tonight.
So Gao Xiaodi shouted, and simply fucked himself down, and also pulled Li Mingliu down.
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After seeing off a group of local landlords, Su Yuanshan and Qin Weimin, Tang Wenjie returned to Su Yuanshan's room.
"Li Mingliu and Gao Xiaodi are not good..." Tang Wenjie sat on the largest sofa with a big golden sword, happily took the teacup handed over by Su Yuanshan: "I thought they were so powerful, but they lay down without exerting much force."
"Haha, that's the senior brother." Su Yuanshan gave Qin Weimin a thumbs up: "To be honest, I really admire my senior brother... Let's have an interview, how do you maintain a balance between drinking weight and sober mind?"
"Born." Qin Weimin took a sip of tea, not caring about it: "It's probably because of the digestive enzymes that are powerful."
"Where is the liver?"
"There is no problem with the liver. I did a comprehensive examination after Wang Rui had an accident, and now I have focused on the annual physical examination." Qin Weimin said with a smile: "I can only say that I am gifted."
Tang Wenjie looked envious: "It would be a pity that you didn't go to be an official."
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After laughing, the three of them naturally brought the topic back to the finfet structure this time, or, to say, further away.
For so many years, Tang Wenjie has been walking on both legs.
The first is naturally to cooperate with Deyuan to commercialize the Finfet structure and plan subsequent improvement plans. The second is to try new designs to cope with the limits of the future.
Or to put it more accurately, it is the limit of leakage.
When the number of transistors reaches a certain level, the transistor density is actually not as "decisive" as before - in a sense, the improvement and optimization of the overall processor architecture are enough to smooth out these advantages.
What's more important is the leakage rate.
Just as human hearts are not satisfied, technological progress is also not satisfied.
"To be honest, twenty years ago, I really didn't expect to touch the quantum field in this life." Tang Wenjie smiled and shook his head with emotion: "Now, when I look up, I find that quantum tunneling has become the biggest obstacle in front of me... I'm a little drunk too."
"Well, the main reason is that the semiconductor industry has developed too fast in the past 20 years." Su Yuanshan smiled after taking a sip of tea: "Silicon-based chips are about to come to an end."
As soon as he said this, Qin Weimin and Tang Wenjie immediately looked at him at the same time.
"Really? Have you created black technology?"
Su Yuanshan immediately coughed. He knew that his casual feelings made the two senior brothers misunderstood, and immediately explained: "No, I just said this casually."
"I was scared. I thought I was going to convert the carbon-based chip soon."
"It's still early, the progress of carbon-based chips... How can I say it, it's still in the age of fairy childhood." Su Yuanshan narrowed his eyes and thought of the current progress of graphene.
As the discoverer of graphene, he certainly would not miss any progress in graphene. But he also knew that graphene...at least for a long time, it belonged to the "looks beautiful" future.
At present, whether it is a university or a scientific research institution, the research on graphene... in addition to using water papers, it is actually more about making a "backup".
After all, the upper limit of silicon-based chips is visible to the naked eye.
Because of its natural and excellent electron mobility, carbon-based chips can completely surpass their performance on silicon-based chips under the conditions of greater elasticity of the process.
The so-called "backup" means opening a door and staying there. Whether it is in the future if there is no way out for silicon-based chips, no other materials to transfer, or the future carbon-based cost is reduced to an acceptable level, in short, there must be a future.
"As a fairy child... I'll be relieved." Tang Wenjie laughed at the moment of hearing this: "At least I'll keep my job."
Su Yuanshan: “…”
Chapter completed!