Chapter 619 The choice of the next generation light source
The atmosphere suddenly became cold at this moment.
Vincenti is over 60 years old this year, and her hair and beard are gray. After a brief shock, her anger suddenly rises.
He stood up, supported his hands on the edge of the table, and glared at Stanley.
"Can I think you're making charges against Texas Instruments?"
Stanley did not back down: "I am not accusing you, I am just telling a fact. That is, you understand how much help you have provided to the mainland's Far Core!"
"Don't talk nonsense!" Carly's anger came up: "Star Hai was established in Yuanxin, do you think we can help?"
Stanley smiled coldly: "Who is Xinghai's largest shareholder?"
"It's Xinghai Fund." Before Carly answered, Stanley continued: "Who is the largest shareholder of Xinghai Fund?"
"It doesn't matter who is the major shareholder of Xinghai." Carly glared at Stanley and said word by word: "I only tell you that Xinghai Technology is a Silicon Valley-based company and abides by its own laws. Its chairman and more than three-quarters of its employees are citizens of the country, and the rest are also Silicon Valley companies with legal permanent residence."
"All our cooperation with Yuanxin Technology is based on mutual benefit and comply with relevant legal provisions. I hope you understand this."
After Carly finished speaking, she stood up and walked out of the office simply.
With Carly's rage, Vincenti calmed down instead.
He frowned and stared silently at the technocrat in the Ministry of Energy, who is known for his strength and obviously has a Cold War mentality, said slowly for a few seconds: "Mr. Stanley, you are arbitrarily exaggerated and have a KGB style."
Stanley shrugged and said that he didn't mind the comment at all.
At this time, Zhang Rujin suddenly said casually.
"Mr. Stanley, I want to ask for a question."
"It is well known that copper has a resistance smaller than aluminum, so it can carry a larger current on a smaller area. In large-scale integrated circuits, if today's aluminum wire is replaced with copper wire technology, it can achieve a denser transistor design and improve chip efficiency. At the same time, copper's resistance to electron migration is also better than aluminum, so the reliability of the processor will be greatly improved."
Zhang Rujin knew that the other party was a technician and knew these things clearly, so he did not deliberately explain it, but asked directly: "Texas Instruments has implemented the copper conductor process. You think that this process should be authorized to us?"
Stanley was stunned for a moment, then smiled, and then looked at Vincenti: "Have you realized the copper wire process?"
Vincenti didn't bother to pay attention to him.
Zhang Rujin smiled slightly: "We Deyuan Semiconductor have achieved the best copper wire process at present, which is much better than ibm."
Stanley's smile instantly frozen.
"And, we are willing to authorize Deyi."
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The establishment of the EUV Alliance undoubtedly demonstrates the attitude of the Ministry of Energy or the government. That is, technology must be in its own hands.
Su Yuanshan is different. He just wants to disgust those people.
What's more, compared with the subsequent immersion technology of Yuanxin, the copper conductor technology is far from core.
The copper wire process can only give Deyuan a first lead. In addition, Deyuan's current production capacity is mainly concentrated on yx architecture and flash memory. The x86 processor, which is most eager for copper wire, has no production capacity due to the market and cannot play a big role.
Therefore, Deyi was authorized to join forces with Deyi and Xinghai, and at the same time, he also stepped on the two OEM factories on the island that wanted to get up. How to see how it was cost-effective.
In fact, because Yuanxin has been persistent in poaching people for a long time, a lot of engineers on the island have been lost. So much so that the communities in Deyuan Science and Technology Park are called small tw-most of the communities are engineers on the island.
Su Yuanshan flew directly from the capital to Shanghai Stock Exchange.
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"Dr. Liang, I am a pure layman in the wafer fab process."
Su Yuanshan and Liang Mengsong walked under the grape corridor of the Science and Technology Park - this is Zhang Rujin's grape road on Yuanxin, and he deliberately copied one. In addition, the legend that the Cowherd and Weaver Girl can hear the words of the Cowherd and the Weaver Girl under the grape trellis, which was unexpectedly good for the comforting effect of these engineers on the island.
Su Yuanshan found a shaded place to sit down with Liang Mengsong, and laughed and said, "So I won't show off my skills."
"Where is, Shan Zong is well-versed in all fields, which is well known to everyone." Liang Mengsong said calmly: "We still hope Shan Zong can point out the direction."
"I really don't dare - but if you talk about direction, there is only one."
"Deyuan's process is preferred, and no other factors need to be considered. Even if it is listed in the future, we must consider this and that, and we must unswervingly move like this - if we like to buy and buy stocks, we will not be able to buy and pull back. At worst, Yuanxin will buy back."
Liang Mengsong licked his lips and a heat rose on his body.
——The factory says that I am a technical maniac, but my crazy maniac is really considered a pediatrician in front of General Shan.
"Mr. Shan, this is what you said." Liang Mengsong laughed: "The process is very expensive."
"What are you afraid of when spending money? As long as you take one step ahead in key processes, you can make a purchase of orders. Fabs are a winner-takes-all industry. Whoever masters the advanced processes will have the pricing power of high-end chip foundry."
Liang Mengsong nodded. Of course he knew that the process will be more and more difficult in the future, and the investment demand will become greater and greater - of course, the returns will definitely be generous enough.
But Yuanxin still has a problem.
"Mr. Shan, what if the lithography machine is banned from selling...?"
Speaking of lithography machines, Su Yuanshan immediately fell silent.
euv has been established like a historical trajectory - Asml, a small Dutch company, was finally able to enter the euv alliance after signing an almost-selling contract.
It can be imagined that in the next few years, Asml will quickly catch up with Nikon Canon technically and complete the technical concept of EUV as a historical trajectory.
But the historical trajectory is that Asml completes the key team to surpass Nikon Canon, currently at Su Yuanshan.
"As long as domestic lithography machines are still catching up, the ban on sales will not happen." Su Yuanshan pursed his lips and looked silently at a building in the distance - which was the laboratory where the joint team of Lin Benjian and Zhao Kaidong were located.
"And we have always had technical support and cooperation with lithography machine companies from multiple parties. Under this interlaced relationship, unless Deyuan is clearly targeted, it will not happen."
Liang Mengsong is not good at these "big chess", he only needs to know that Su Yuanshan said no, so he doesn't have to worry.
Moreover, Deyuan is indeed a friendly customer of Nikon. After the signing of the Wa agreement last year, the domestic semiconductor industry was in panic for a long time. Nikon also specially arranged construction periods for this... It was later proved that Ni Guo did not interfere with Deyuan's orders except for strengthening inspections.
"Anyway, as we look, the more we have the advantage of our technology, the more we have the capital to bargain." Su Yuanshan stood up and walked towards the laboratory ahead.
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"Uncle Lin, Uncle Zhao."
Seeing the two of them standing at the door at the same time, Su Yuanshan hurriedly stepped forward to shake hands, and Liang Mengsong also stepped forward to say hello.
Seeing Liang Mengsong following Su Yuanshan, Lin Benjian was nothing, but Zhao Kaidong was slightly stunned. At this time, Zhang Rujin was not there. According to the rules, the person responsible for receiving and accompanying Su Yuanshan should be the second-in-command of Deyuan...
According to the position, Liang Mengsong can only rank fifth in Deyuan.
It seems that Su Yuanshan is really determined to promote a breakthrough in the process.
After sitting in the reception room, Su Yuanshan briefly asked about the current progress - in the field of light sources, Zhao Kaidong's team has made rapid progress due to Lin Benjian's joining, and they are about to complete the 193nm excimer laser light source technology.
Although it has been lagging behind foreign peers for about a year, it has caught up. Moreover, according to existing technologies and theories, 193nm will become a light source that cannot be broken through for a long time. Otherwise, the Lighthouse Kingdom will not have established an euv alliance and find a new way out.
Of course, there are other solutions to how to cross 193nm in addition to EUV. For example, Nikon and SVG are preparing to conquer the 157nm Hef2 laser, as well as electron beam projection (epl), ion projection (ipl), and even x-ray, etc.
In short, there are a lot of solutions, and the whole thing is all about the road.
But no one knows which one is the real right way.
Well, only Su Yuanshan knows it.
Because of these plans, they were defeated by the happy old man in front of him.
"Uncle Lin, Uncle Zhao, what are your thoughts after 193nm?" Sitting on the sofa, Su Yuanshan picked up the teacup and took a sip.
Zhao Kaidong and Lin Benjian looked at each other, then smiled and said, "It seems that 193nm will stay for a long time. Are you so anxious?"
"I was not in a hurry." Su Yuanshan confessed very frankly: "The main reason is that the Americans are doing euv, which makes me feel a little nervous."
Zhao Kaidong smiled and shook his head: "Although the light source is much ahead of the lithography machine, the 193nm light source has not been used on the lithography machine yet, so it's useless to worry about it."
"As for the next generation of light sources, Lao Lin and I are not very optimistic about 157nm, because the hef2 laser can be said to completely overturn the existing optical path system. Not only should the objective lens be re-engineered, but the photoresist also needs to be re-developed... The most important thing is that the wavelength stepping is not much improved, and the input-output ratio is too high."
"Euv, it sounds very good, and it's a bit like the next generation of light sources. But look at the situation of the euv alliance... it's not something that our small workshop can do."
Su Yuanshan smiled and said, "With you two here, our laboratory is not a small workshop."
"Haha, no matter whether it is, isn't the designer saying? Cross the river by feeling the stone... Since someone has walked in front of us, we can just cross the river by feeling the stone." Zhao Kaidong smiled and said, "Didn't Intel recruit so many companies? You can also recruit one."
Su Yuanshan: “…”
He understood it. Zhao Kaidong's meaning was to let him set up an EUV alliance.
Su Yuanshan wanted to do it, but if he did it now, it would not be Yuanxin's leadership, but everyone worked for Ni people.
So he looked at Lin Benjian.
"Uncle Lin? Do you have any tricks?"
(Note: Although it is a bit boring,... I still have to write...)
Chapter completed!